michele obama pushing a new health initiative in public schools. feels like hummus and broccoli and salad. kids are creating a market for lunch, joining me now is the founder and ceo of the education action group foundation. why are we wasting money on these programs? >> we have bureaucrats who believe that they know what is best. they pass these regulations but what government schools will feed children. what we are seeing is a culture shock, kids are used to hamburgers and hot dogs and chicken nuggets and those sorts of things, and now they are being force-fed hummus and all of the other things you're talking about. cheryl: here is the problem here is that the government's responsibility were the parents responsibility to deal with the epidemic? >> no, it is the parents responsibility. >> we as a society need to step up and say that we need to fix this. and we needed to keep kids in soccer programs are ways to get kids to exercise more. the top-down mentality is not working. what we are seeing our kids that are getting 850 calories for lunch and